‘The song factories have closed!’: songwriting camps as spaces of collaborative creativity in the post-industrial age

Saved in:
Bibliographic Details
Published in:Creative industries journal pp. 1 - 22
Main Authors: Herbst, Jan-Peter, Ahlers, Michael, Barber, Simon
Format: Journal Article
Language:English
Published: 29.06.2024
ISSN:1751-0694, 1751-0708
Online Access:Get full text
Tags: Add Tag
No Tags, Be the first to tag this record!
Author Barber, Simon
Ahlers, Michael
Herbst, Jan-Peter
Author_xml – sequence: 1
  givenname: Jan-Peter
  orcidid: 0000-0001-7453-0141
  surname: Herbst
  fullname: Herbst, Jan-Peter
  organization: Department of Music and Design Arts, University of Huddersfield, Huddersfield, UK
– sequence: 2
  givenname: Michael
  orcidid: 0000-0002-2678-9236
  surname: Ahlers
  fullname: Ahlers, Michael
  organization: Institute of Fine Arts, Music and Education, Leuphana University of Lüneburg, Lüneburg, Germany
– sequence: 3
  givenname: Simon
  orcidid: 0000-0002-2844-360X
  surname: Barber
  fullname: Barber, Simon
  organization: Faculty of Arts, Design and Media, Birmingham City University, Birmingham, UK
BookMark eNqFkE1OwzAQhS1UJErpEZDMAQLjOLETWKGKP6kSm7KOJo7TGqVxZBtQdz0GXK8nIYF2w4bNzGjmvafRd0pGrW01IecMLhlkcMVkykDkyWUMcV-4EEzwIzIe9hFIyEaHuRedkKn3rwDAYsYTno3JZrf9XKw09bZd0hpVsM5oT1f4rqlqrNfVxW77df1z_3AmmF6mcN15ip76DlUvtjVVtmmwtA6DGYxOD4MJG2paGvr4zvoQmbZ688EZbCgu9Rk5rrHxerrvE_Jyf7eYPUbz54en2e08UhwgRJyLkmlZxVUlMU0Y8BilEIlKQCgpMONlnYJEWeWlzlVS5mmZ8lzHEhBZWfEJufnNVc5673RdKBP692wbHJqmYFAMIIsDyGIAWexB9u70j7tzZo1u84_vG1cqe48
CitedBy_id crossref_primary_10_1017_S0261143025000285
crossref_primary_10_1080_03007766_2024_2428035
Cites_doi 10.4135/9781473915008
10.1017/CCO9781316569207.006
10.4324/9780203855881
10.1037/a0012801
10.1080/14780887.2020.1780357
10.1177/0163443705050468
10.1080/17510694.2016.1154653
10.5130/csr.v19i1.2588
10.5949/liverpool/9780853236191.003.0010
10.1080/17510694.2020.1839702
10.1177/01708406221094201
10.1525/california/9780520283114.001.0001
10.17104/9783406621321
10.4324/9780203843192
10.1007/978-3-642-28430-4
10.5840/zfs1941913
10.1017/S0261143017000319
10.4324/9781315623948
10.4324/9781315467658
10.1080/17510694.2019.1621596
10.1386/jmpr.14.2.111_1
10.4135/9781526401960
10.1007/978-3-030-00190-2
10.1215/17432197-6609046
10.4324/9781351111959
10.5040/9781501334054.ch-013
10.1080/17510694.2016.1247626
10.1080/03007766.2017.1351134
10.25101/17.4
10.5429/2079-3871(2018)v8i2.3en
10.5429/2079-3871(2023)v13i1.2en
10.1177/0730888414562073
10.1068/a40352
10.1017/CCOL9780521865821.011
10.1177/0170840613517600
10.4337/9780857939814.00043
10.1177/1367549414563298
10.1080/10400410701841898
10.1080/13691180801998995
10.1093/oso/9780190296605.001.0001
10.5040/9781501310652
10.5406/illinois/9780252037399.001.0001
10.1177/0263276408097794
10.1146/annurev.soc.29.010202.100037
10.1080/03007766.2017.1348660
10.3998/mpub.322080
10.1007/978-3-030-01650-0
10.4324/9781003022466
10.1080/10286630903055885
ContentType Journal Article
DBID AAYXX
CITATION
DOI 10.1080/17510694.2024.2366163
DatabaseName CrossRef
DatabaseTitle CrossRef
DeliveryMethod fulltext_linktorsrc
Discipline Psychology
EISSN 1751-0708
EndPage 22
ExternalDocumentID 10_1080_17510694_2024_2366163
GroupedDBID 0BK
0R~
8VB
AAGDL
AAHIA
AAMFJ
AAMIU
AAPUL
AAYXX
AAZMC
ABCCY
ABFIM
ABJNI
ABLIJ
ABPEM
ABTAI
ABXUL
ABXYU
ACGFS
ACTIO
ACTOA
ADAHI
ADCVX
ADKVQ
AECIN
AEFOU
AEISY
AEMXT
AEYOC
AEZRU
AFRVT
AGDLA
AGRBW
AHDZW
AHQJS
AIJEM
AIYEW
AKBVH
AKVCP
ALMA_UNASSIGNED_HOLDINGS
ALQZU
AVBZW
AWYRJ
BEJHT
BLEHA
BMOTO
BOHLJ
CCCUG
CITATION
DGFLZ
DKSSO
EBS
FE4
GTTXZ
H13
K1G
KYCEM
LJTGL
M4Z
P2P
QWB
RNANH
ROSJB
RSYQP
STATR
TASJS
TBQAZ
TDBHL
TEA
TFH
TFW
TH9
TNTFI
TRJHH
TUROJ
ZL0
ID FETCH-LOGICAL-c300t-336b1e7d2dd7a541032a7664c406c76a83bf507a7d9be9c4b95b539e270aa1bd3
ISICitedReferencesCount 3
ISICitedReferencesURI http://www.webofscience.com/api/gateway?GWVersion=2&SrcApp=Summon&SrcAuth=ProQuest&DestLinkType=CitingArticles&DestApp=WOS_CPL&KeyUT=001257989900001&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcvtisr.summon.serialssolutions.com%2F%23%21%2Fsearch%3Fho%3Df%26include.ft.matches%3Dt%26l%3Dnull%26q%3D
ISSN 1751-0694
IngestDate Tue Nov 18 21:32:59 EST 2025
Sat Nov 29 06:03:08 EST 2025
IsDoiOpenAccess false
IsOpenAccess true
IsPeerReviewed true
IsScholarly true
Language English
LinkModel OpenURL
MergedId FETCHMERGED-LOGICAL-c300t-336b1e7d2dd7a541032a7664c406c76a83bf507a7d9be9c4b95b539e270aa1bd3
ORCID 0000-0001-7453-0141
0000-0002-2844-360X
0000-0002-2678-9236
OpenAccessLink https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17510694.2024.2366163?needAccess=true
PageCount 22
ParticipantIDs crossref_citationtrail_10_1080_17510694_2024_2366163
crossref_primary_10_1080_17510694_2024_2366163
PublicationCentury 2000
PublicationDate 2024-06-29
PublicationDateYYYYMMDD 2024-06-29
PublicationDate_xml – month: 06
  year: 2024
  text: 2024-06-29
  day: 29
PublicationDecade 2020
PublicationTitle Creative industries journal
PublicationYear 2024
References Frith S. (e_1_3_4_34_1) 2012
e_1_3_4_3_1
Döhl F. (e_1_3_4_26_1) 2016
Osborne R. (e_1_3_4_68_1) 2022
Pettijohn T. (e_1_3_4_69_1) 2010; 7
Burgess R. J. (e_1_3_4_15_1) 2013
Cunningham M. (e_1_3_4_23_1) 1998
e_1_3_4_84_1
e_1_3_4_86_1
e_1_3_4_9_1
e_1_3_4_42_1
e_1_3_4_7_1
Bennett J. (e_1_3_4_10_1) 2011; 5
e_1_3_4_40_1
Sawyer R. K. (e_1_3_4_76_1) 2009; 3
e_1_3_4_82_1
e_1_3_4_5_1
e_1_3_4_46_1
e_1_3_4_44_1
e_1_3_4_65_1
e_1_3_4_88_1
e_1_3_4_25_1
Frith S. (e_1_3_4_33_1) 1978
e_1_3_4_48_1
e_1_3_4_67_1
Burgess R. J. (e_1_3_4_14_1) 2008; 3
Mullen J. (e_1_3_4_63_1) 2015
Egan S. (e_1_3_4_29_1) 2004
e_1_3_4_72_1
e_1_3_4_95_1
Mousse T. (e_1_3_4_62_1) 1998
e_1_3_4_53_1
e_1_3_4_91_1
e_1_3_4_30_1
e_1_3_4_70_1
Sawyer R. K. (e_1_3_4_73_1) 2003
e_1_3_4_93_1
Seabrook J. (e_1_3_4_78_1) 2015
e_1_3_4_13_1
e_1_3_4_59_1
Harding P. (e_1_3_4_38_1) 2010
e_1_3_4_55_1
e_1_3_4_32_1
Jasen D. A. (e_1_3_4_47_1) 2015
Sawyer R. K. (e_1_3_4_74_1) 2012
e_1_3_4_17_1
Döhl F. (e_1_3_4_27_1) 2022
e_1_3_4_36_1
e_1_3_4_19_1
Csikszentmihalyi M. (e_1_3_4_21_1) 2009
Moorefield V. (e_1_3_4_61_1) 2010
e_1_3_4_4_1
e_1_3_4_2_1
Rihanna. (e_1_3_4_71_1) 2009
Marshall L. (e_1_3_4_57_1) 2014
Moore A. (e_1_3_4_60_1) 2013
Smudits A. (e_1_3_4_80_1) 2002
Harding P. (e_1_3_4_39_1) 2020
e_1_3_4_83_1
e_1_3_4_64_1
e_1_3_4_85_1
e_1_3_4_8_1
Latour B. (e_1_3_4_51_1) 2007
e_1_3_4_20_1
e_1_3_4_41_1
e_1_3_4_6_1
Bennett J. (e_1_3_4_11_1) 2013
e_1_3_4_24_1
e_1_3_4_45_1
e_1_3_4_43_1
e_1_3_4_28_1
e_1_3_4_66_1
e_1_3_4_87_1
e_1_3_4_89_1
Csikszentmihalyi M. (e_1_3_4_22_1) 2015
e_1_3_4_94_1
Jones T. (e_1_3_4_49_1) 1999
e_1_3_4_31_1
e_1_3_4_52_1
e_1_3_4_50_1
Sternberg R. J. (e_1_3_4_81_1) 2002
e_1_3_4_92_1
e_1_3_4_12_1
e_1_3_4_35_1
e_1_3_4_58_1
Zollo P. (e_1_3_4_96_1) 2003
e_1_3_4_54_1
Watson S. (e_1_3_4_90_1) 2011
e_1_3_4_77_1
Halloran M. E. (e_1_3_4_37_1) 2017
e_1_3_4_56_1
e_1_3_4_79_1
Burgess R. J. (e_1_3_4_16_1) 2014
e_1_3_4_18_1
Sawyer R. K. (e_1_3_4_75_1) 2017
References_xml – volume-title: The International Recording Industries
  year: 2014
  ident: e_1_3_4_57_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_8_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_19_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_36_1
– volume-title: Rated R
  year: 2009
  ident: e_1_3_4_71_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_3_1
  doi: 10.4135/9781473915008
– ident: e_1_3_4_44_1
– volume-title: Using Technology to Unlock Musical Creativity
  year: 2011
  ident: e_1_3_4_90_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_5_1
  doi: 10.1017/CCO9781316569207.006
– volume-title: The Guys Who Wrote ‘em: Songwriting Geniuses of Rock and Pop
  year: 2004
  ident: e_1_3_4_29_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_41_1
  doi: 10.4324/9780203855881
– volume-title: Song Means: Analysing and Interpreting Recorded Popular Song
  year: 2013
  ident: e_1_3_4_60_1
– volume-title: Mashup in der Musik: Fremdreferenzielles Komponieren, Sound Sampling und Urheberrecht
  year: 2016
  ident: e_1_3_4_26_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_25_1
  doi: 10.1037/a0012801
– ident: e_1_3_4_18_1
  doi: 10.1080/14780887.2020.1780357
– ident: e_1_3_4_43_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_53_1
  doi: 10.1177/0163443705050468
– ident: e_1_3_4_64_1
  doi: 10.1080/17510694.2016.1154653
– volume-title: The History of Music Production
  year: 2014
  ident: e_1_3_4_16_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_31_1
  doi: 10.5130/csr.v19i1.2588
– ident: e_1_3_4_48_1
  doi: 10.5949/liverpool/9780853236191.003.0010
– ident: e_1_3_4_28_1
  doi: 10.1080/17510694.2020.1839702
– ident: e_1_3_4_77_1
  doi: 10.1177/01708406221094201
– ident: e_1_3_4_54_1
  doi: 10.1525/california/9780520283114.001.0001
– ident: e_1_3_4_91_1
  doi: 10.17104/9783406621321
– volume-title: The Sociology of Rock
  year: 1978
  ident: e_1_3_4_33_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_46_1
  doi: 10.4324/9780203843192
– ident: e_1_3_4_12_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_87_1
  doi: 10.1007/978-3-642-28430-4
– ident: e_1_3_4_2_1
  doi: 10.5840/zfs1941913
– ident: e_1_3_4_66_1
  doi: 10.1017/S0261143017000319
– volume-title: Zwischen Pastiche und Zitat: Die Urheberrechtsreform 2021 und ihre Konsequenzen für die künstlerische Kreativität
  year: 2022
  ident: e_1_3_4_27_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_79_1
  doi: 10.4324/9781315623948
– ident: e_1_3_4_42_1
– volume-title: Horny ‘98
  year: 1998
  ident: e_1_3_4_62_1
– volume: 7
  start-page: 1
  issue: 1
  year: 2010
  ident: e_1_3_4_69_1
  article-title: Songwriting Loafing or Creative Collaboration?: a Comparison of Individual and Team Written Billboard Hits in the USA
  publication-title: Journal of Articles in Support of the Null Hypothesis
– volume-title: Defying the Crowd: Cultivating Creativity in a Culture of Conformity
  year: 2002
  ident: e_1_3_4_81_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_93_1
  doi: 10.4324/9781315467658
– volume: 3
  start-page: 81
  issue: 2
  year: 2009
  ident: e_1_3_4_76_1
  article-title: Distributed Creativity: How Collective Creations Emerge from Collaboration
  publication-title: American Psychological Association
– volume-title: The Show Must Go On!: Popular Song in Britain during the First World War
  year: 2015
  ident: e_1_3_4_63_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_84_1
  doi: 10.1080/17510694.2019.1621596
– volume-title: The Song Machine: Inside the Hit Factory
  year: 2015
  ident: e_1_3_4_78_1
– volume-title: Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience
  year: 2009
  ident: e_1_3_4_21_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_50_1
  doi: 10.1386/jmpr.14.2.111_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_88_1
  doi: 10.4135/9781526401960
– volume: 3
  year: 2008
  ident: e_1_3_4_14_1
  article-title: Producer Compensation: Challenges and Options in the New Music Business
  publication-title: Journal on the Art of Record Production
– volume-title: The Art of Record Production: An Introductory Reader for a New Academic Field
  year: 2012
  ident: e_1_3_4_34_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_65_1
  doi: 10.1007/978-3-030-00190-2
– ident: e_1_3_4_45_1
  doi: 10.1215/17432197-6609046
– volume-title: Reassembling the Social: An Introduction to Actor-Network-Theory
  year: 2007
  ident: e_1_3_4_51_1
– volume-title: Mediamorphosen des Kulturschaffens: Kunst und Kommunikationstechnologien im Wandel
  year: 2002
  ident: e_1_3_4_80_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_92_1
  doi: 10.4324/9781351111959
– ident: e_1_3_4_6_1
  doi: 10.5040/9781501334054.ch-013
– volume-title: Good Vibrations: A History of Record Production
  year: 1998
  ident: e_1_3_4_23_1
– volume-title: The Musician’s Business & Legal Guide
  year: 2017
  ident: e_1_3_4_37_1
– volume-title: Explaining Creativity: The Science of Human Innovation
  year: 2012
  ident: e_1_3_4_74_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_89_1
  doi: 10.1080/17510694.2016.1247626
– volume-title: Sex Bomb
  year: 1999
  ident: e_1_3_4_49_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_56_1
  doi: 10.1080/03007766.2017.1351134
– volume-title: Owning the Masters: A History of Sound Recording Copyright
  year: 2022
  ident: e_1_3_4_68_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_86_1
  doi: 10.25101/17.4
– ident: e_1_3_4_40_1
  doi: 10.5429/2079-3871(2018)v8i2.3en
– ident: e_1_3_4_85_1
  doi: 10.5429/2079-3871(2023)v13i1.2en
– volume-title: The Systems Model of Creativity: The Collected Works of Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
  year: 2015
  ident: e_1_3_4_22_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_24_1
  doi: 10.1177/0730888414562073
– volume-title: Songwriters on Songwriting
  year: 2003
  ident: e_1_3_4_96_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_52_1
  doi: 10.1068/a40352
– ident: e_1_3_4_94_1
  doi: 10.1017/CCOL9780521865821.011
– ident: e_1_3_4_72_1
  doi: 10.1177/0170840613517600
– ident: e_1_3_4_59_1
  doi: 10.4337/9780857939814.00043
– ident: e_1_3_4_55_1
  doi: 10.1177/1367549414563298
– ident: e_1_3_4_58_1
  doi: 10.1080/10400410701841898
– ident: e_1_3_4_95_1
  doi: 10.1080/13691180801998995
– ident: e_1_3_4_9_1
  doi: 10.1093/oso/9780190296605.001.0001
– start-page: 139
  volume-title: The Act of Musical Composition
  year: 2013
  ident: e_1_3_4_11_1
– volume-title: Tin Pan Alley: An Encyclopedia of the Golden Age of American Song
  year: 2015
  ident: e_1_3_4_47_1
– volume-title: Group Creativity: Music, Theater, Collaboration
  year: 2003
  ident: e_1_3_4_73_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_82_1
  doi: 10.5040/9781501310652
– ident: e_1_3_4_20_1
  doi: 10.5406/illinois/9780252037399.001.0001
– ident: e_1_3_4_35_1
  doi: 10.1177/0263276408097794
– ident: e_1_3_4_70_1
  doi: 10.1146/annurev.soc.29.010202.100037
– volume-title: The Art of Music Production: The Theory and Practice
  year: 2013
  ident: e_1_3_4_15_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_67_1
  doi: 10.1080/03007766.2017.1348660
– ident: e_1_3_4_32_1
  doi: 10.3998/mpub.322080
– ident: e_1_3_4_17_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_7_1
– volume-title: Group Genius: The Creative Power of Collaboration
  year: 2017
  ident: e_1_3_4_75_1
– volume-title: PWL from the Factory Floor
  year: 2010
  ident: e_1_3_4_38_1
– volume-title: Pop Music Production: Manufactured Pop and Boybands of the 1990s
  year: 2020
  ident: e_1_3_4_39_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_83_1
  doi: 10.1007/978-3-030-01650-0
– ident: e_1_3_4_13_1
  doi: 10.4324/9781003022466
– volume: 5
  year: 2011
  ident: e_1_3_4_10_1
  article-title: Collaborative Songwriting: The Ontology of Negotiated Creativity in Popular Music Studio Practice
  publication-title: Journal on the Art of Record Production
– ident: e_1_3_4_4_1
  doi: 10.1080/10286630903055885
– volume-title: The Producer as Composer: Shaping the Sounds of Popular Music
  year: 2010
  ident: e_1_3_4_61_1
– ident: e_1_3_4_30_1
SSID ssj0001213438
Score 2.2949548
SourceID crossref
SourceType Enrichment Source
Index Database
StartPage 1
Title ‘The song factories have closed!’: songwriting camps as spaces of collaborative creativity in the post-industrial age
WOSCitedRecordID wos001257989900001&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcvtisr.summon.serialssolutions.com%2F%23%21%2Fsearch%3Fho%3Df%26include.ft.matches%3Dt%26l%3Dnull%26q%3D
hasFullText 1
inHoldings 1
isFullTextHit
isPrint
journalDatabaseRights – providerCode: PRVAWR
  databaseName: Taylor & Francis Online Journals
  customDbUrl:
  eissn: 1751-0708
  dateEnd: 99991231
  omitProxy: false
  ssIdentifier: ssj0001213438
  issn: 1751-0694
  databaseCode: TFW
  dateStart: 20080101
  isFulltext: true
  titleUrlDefault: https://www.tandfonline.com
  providerName: Taylor & Francis
link http://cvtisr.summon.serialssolutions.com/2.0.0/link/0/eLvHCXMwtV3NbtQwELaWwqEXxK8ofzISN5QliZ3Y5lZVVIhDxWERva1sxxErbbOrZCntrY9BX6GP1SdhJnay2QVV9MAliizP5Gc-je3RzHyEvNUJ46nNXcRLMAMvEx1pV4pIwFrkbGGsUbYlmxBHR_L4WH0Zja66WpjTuagqeXamlv_V1DAGxsbS2VuYu1cKA3APRocrmB2u_2T4Ln1BIgIapBLynDpwJH73HbmG7HzRYIgz6WYqDAvgzJ_Y4QiLcPXJskEGGnA31nelHeAFVdQ97UTIk1wumlU0W_OA6M0cowMvgB1K_BTQOvyaNhpbG1-A8llX0Ube8D5SNDfbWf5t_LU2gTlsdhIAFkIYKcdUqxDn8F5XZJh-5dmOx24wJmI58K7JYJn21cx_LAA-YxKFUd8YnzZOGWxCghvdaLi9tRD26YlJ6JvaqZmimmlQc4fcTUWm0INODr8N4nmA-pY4vf-armBMxu__-kKDrdBgTzN5QO6Hwwjd9yB6SEauekR2-zXx_DE5v774BTiiiA7a44gijqjH0Zvri8sPdIAe2qKH6oZ69NBFSTfQQ9foobOKAnroFnoo_Pon5Ovhx8nBpyiwdUSWxfEqYiw3iRNFWhRCZxwbNWqR59zCltGKXEtmSjh8aFEo45TlRmUmY8qlItY6MQV7SnaqReWeEapl6rALFZMZ5zKTysYads5GCOtKnaV7hHc_bmpDK3tkVJlPb7TcHhn3Ykvfy-Vmgee3FXhBdtf4fkl2VvUP94rcs6erWVO_bgHzG-0rlAA
linkProvider Taylor & Francis
openUrl ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&ctx_enc=info%3Aofi%2Fenc%3AUTF-8&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fsummon.serialssolutions.com&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=%E2%80%98The+song+factories+have+closed%21%E2%80%99%3A+songwriting+camps+as+spaces+of+collaborative+creativity+in+the+post-industrial+age&rft.jtitle=Creative+industries+journal&rft.au=Herbst%2C+Jan-Peter&rft.au=Ahlers%2C+Michael&rft.au=Barber%2C+Simon&rft.date=2024-06-29&rft.issn=1751-0694&rft.eissn=1751-0708&rft.spage=1&rft.epage=22&rft_id=info:doi/10.1080%2F17510694.2024.2366163&rft.externalDBID=n%2Fa&rft.externalDocID=10_1080_17510694_2024_2366163
thumbnail_l http://covers-cdn.summon.serialssolutions.com/index.aspx?isbn=/lc.gif&issn=1751-0694&client=summon
thumbnail_m http://covers-cdn.summon.serialssolutions.com/index.aspx?isbn=/mc.gif&issn=1751-0694&client=summon
thumbnail_s http://covers-cdn.summon.serialssolutions.com/index.aspx?isbn=/sc.gif&issn=1751-0694&client=summon